Red was Karlo's post-Dark band, with Terry Donahue and Ottmar Liebert. "Hanging Man" is Terry on drums and Karlo on everything else, recorded on Ottmar's Teac 4-track while he was out of town. Flying Particles was Karlo's first band at Berklee, which went through a series of personnel and venue changes too torturous to describe here. Last gig was at CBGBs, 1979. The band dish was a Stumpworld thing, with Trish Mahoney on vocals, Jon Boho on drums, Chip Shepherd on guitar, and Karlo on bass. "...413" and "Groove" were one-offs done with housemates and friends.